# Product and Cake > A podcast about the real tensions in building tech products. Honest conversations — no hype, no buzzwords. Product and Cake is hosted by **Ghonche Tavoosi** (Product Director at mobile.de) and **Paul Lunow** (CTO at Vention). The show features in-depth conversations with practitioners from companies like Vercel, Zalando, Babbel, Relay.app, Adevinta, and more. - 5 seasons completed, 50+ episodes - Covers product strategy, engineering leadership, AI in product development, team dynamics - Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and via RSS - RSS feed: https://feed.product-and-cake.com/rss.xml ## Hosts **Ghonche Tavoosi** — Product Director at mobile.de. Expert in product strategy, B2C/B2B product management, and cross-functional leadership. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghonche-tavoosi-productexpert/ **Paul Lunow** — CTO at Vention. Expert in engineering leadership, developer experience, and AI-driven product development. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-lunow/ ## Key Episodes - S5E2: AI as a Teammate and the Future of the 'Why' — live panel from Vention Unplugged Berlin - S5E1: Catalina Turlea on AI experimentation, domain expertise, and escaping the "sea of average" - S4E20: Steven Puri (Sukha) on flow, retention engineering, and small team AI leverage - S4E15: Mariano Fernández Cocirio (Vercel) on scaling focus amid rapid growth - S4E18: Dr. Thomas Gigant (Lingoda) on rebuilding velocity and structural simplification ## Links - Homepage: https://product-and-cake.com - Episodes: https://product-and-cake.com/#episodes - Contact: mailto:podcastle@paul.lun.io - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-and-cake-podcast/