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Honest conversations about the real tensions in building tech products. No hype, no buzzwords — just insights from the people actually doing the work.
Ben Trollope
Google · S5E4
Real conversations. Remarkable companies.
Ben Trollope on Vibe Coding, Token Economics and Why You're Not a Senior Without a Junior
Google Customer Engineer Ben Trollope on what he sees behind the AI hype: everyone can build, almost nobody maintains, tokens are subsidized like 2019 Uber rides — and why teams need juniors again.
Your Hosts
Two product and tech leaders with complementary lenses — one on product strategy, one on engineering — asking the questions that actually matter.
Ghonche Tavoosi
Product Director @ mobile.de
Product leader with deep expertise in scaling digital platforms. Ghonche brings strategic clarity and a sharp eye for what truly matters to users — cutting through the noise to find the insight that changes everything.
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Unfiltered conversations from practitioners shaping the future of product and tech.
Minerva Tantoco on AI, New York City, and Leading Into the Unknown
From her first AI startup in 1985 to becoming the first-ever CTO of New York City — Minerva Tantoco on stepping into roles that have never existed before and leading through genuine uncertainty.
AI as a Teammate and the Future of the 'Why'
Live from Vention Unplugged Berlin: a panel debate on whether AI is just a tool or a true teammate, with experts forced to argue both sides.
Founder and CTO of Lovelaice: Catalina Turlea on AI Experimentation, Domain Expertise, and Escaping the "Sea of Average"
Demystifies "black box" AI integration; highlights domain expertise over generic LLM wrappers, avoiding average results.
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